Dota 2 Ember Doesnt Do Enough Dmg

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Mar 17, 2019  Ember Spirit moves to a Fire Remnant with a speed of 1300, or reaches it in 0.4 seconds, whichever is faster. Ember Spirit is invulnerable while traveling to a Fire Remnant. Activate Fire Remnant always costs 150 mana, no matter if Ember Spirit has to travel to 1, 2, 3 or 4 Fire Remnants. Mkb is cheaper, and it gives you 75% chance to hit with pure dmg and 7.5% furthermore chance to hit her so u have 82.5% chance. Not like mkb was a go to item before anyways. Ember Spirit generates Fire Remnant charges every 38 seconds, with a max of 3 charges. Releasing a charge sends a Fire Remnant that runs to the target location at 2.5x Ember Spirit's speed. Using Activate Fire Remnant, Ember Spirit can dash out to his Remnants, dealing damage along the way and exploding them upon arrival.

I was having a talk with one of my friends that has been playing dota since the Warcraft days. He was telling me that pudge mid could comeback and potentially be good this patch. His reasoning for it was the amount of rune control he can have. If you convince a support to hand you a ward at the start of the game, you just put it on one of the rune spots, and you always know where the rune is. You can hook it and the mana cost is refunded if you do. He also mentioned the rot damage at level 10. By then rot is usually always maxed which makes it hurt quite a bit.

Thoughts?

he is a melee hero with almost 0 armor lvl 1, there is no way he can lane against any meta ranged midlaner
who cares abt rune control, he can do that as a pos 4 he doesnt have to be the 2 to make that happen
literally anything he can do to influence and win the 'matchup' is something he can do as a pos 4 with an actual midlaner in lane

I used to like him 1v1 versus SF mid. Walk up lvl 1 and beat his ass out of lane. A hook is a guaranteed kill. Same against TA, refraction means nothing with rot.
I may try to midlane pudge again soon.

And how do you think you will lane until that lvl 10? Afk next to your tower leeching exp, watching your enemy farm and deny you every creep? Destroying your T1 right after you leave somewhere because you cant do shit there? Thats not a way to play mid so your answer is hell no..

Instead play pos 4 roam and win all your lanes for your team and snowball from that!

You can't last hit, you can't deny, you can't nuke waves, you can't hit towers, you can't harass the enemy mid, you can't deal with ganks well. What exactly are you going to do mid as pudge?

lmao walk up and hit lvl 1 sf?
and tank an entire wave of creeps with zero armor?
great ideas here boish

You know it's possible to go after SF without aggroing creeps right? Creep aggro timings? Right clicking outside aggro range? That kinda stuff? Plus, you could itemize accordingly. Basi ring and 2 faerie fires.
But yeah whatever you say Washed Up, you're clearly the expert now.
Btw what part of 'used to' don't you understand? These were before all his nerfs(MS decrease, armor, bottle nerf, pms removal) and SF's buffs(MS increase lvl 1 razes, lvl 1 necromastery extra souls, etc). It WAS workable before. Not really workable now, and I understand that quite thoroughly. Though it won't stop me from trying again soon.
Get off your high horse pls.

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I mean I cud say 'used to' and mean yesterday or 2012 how TF shud I know what ur talking abt
If u right click outside agro range and u attack him ull still draw agro
U say 'itemize for it' and neglect a stout
Sure there r all these agro things but as soon as u right click sf once the creeps will hit u, and u will lose the trade

Why would you take away his strongest point which is terrorise lanes when not in vision to lane him on mid where he is very weak, and waste the farm and exp that someone else could have made better usage of?

pudge roaming is the best. same for sf this patch. sf early game roaming with razes is damn game impactful

There is no han solo part 2 . the guy is a fookihng legend

ember unplayable mid with 1 starting armor and no pms they say, even tho he resists magic dmg can get good DoT on both enemy hero and creeps

pudge has 1 starting armor, doenst buy stout shield usually, damages himself alot, doesnt get his natural magic resist before level 11

sounds fun

not good choice, Pudge cant trade hit with enemy midlaner, cant push and we can just deny the rune when pudge is going to hook it.

Pudge would be good against other melee midlaners. I've been playing Dota a long time and pudge has always been good mid despite 'losing' the lane. He is still viable in that position, just that tastes and preference change. Getting a fast 6 allows you to kill Anyone in the game As pudge. You can easily gank other lanes after 6 which is usually what you have to do. You can do that with roaming but that kill potential is less and u are lvl 6 at 13 mins. It's a bit of time loss but I Guess you could ward to make up for it.

The idea behind pudge roam is that he is rarely in vision and therefore he is much more scary than when he is in vision, therefore cant get any hook and being easily ganked

He doesn't need too much levels, if you aren't playing solo and selfishly the fact that you only have hook is enough to make you a lethal threat, you hook into favorite position, your allies dish the damage

By putting him mid, you are making him being very predictable and in vision, so the enemies doesn't have to worry constantly to get hooked, they can see him

That wasn't that bif of a problem in 2012, when mid was constantly ganking, and also had almost always solo matchup
But as of date, the mids are much better just farm up, and not ganking other lanes, and you either are dual/trilaning mid or gets constant ganks by a roamer/dual roamer. So mid is much more problematic lane for him than it was (as a carry, not a support, and also as a support, better roam and stay out of vision than harass)

In low mmr he’s good. You can usually go stout and run at the enemy mid lanes. Other than that he’s best as pos 4

When I played pudge mid long time ago ,used to rekt almost every enemy mid hero and win the game.The secret behind it was I told my team to pick midlaner and made him to come mid after i reach lvl6 i.e the powerspike of pudge, then i literally can solo kill anyone in the map roaming and snowballing. It also depends upon the draft pretty much imo .

I mean I remember beating quite a few embers as ta mid, but recently i've been getting dumpstered by ember or am i missing something

ta wants to rice mid and ember has high kill potential at 6 or something

he has terrible damage and armor though, and you shouldnt be getting solo killed pre6 because yo ucan tp to ur shrine after chains if ur gonna die

not a mid player XD

i believe ta > ember in pure 1v1, i've been trying this with allison few days ago and if you play aggressively as TA from level 1 and try to hit psi blades as much as possible you can almost send him to base on lvl 1 if he's bad enough (check my last ember game where i got absolutely dumpstered if you want to see some really humiliating example), and if that doesnt cut it then just put like two points to meld and run at him

good creep block on first wave is really important though i think.

ember shoudnt be able to lane ta ever, unless ta doesnt know how to play his hero, then its a different story

ta vs ember matchup is fun because neither hero can depend on some defensive mechanisms - flameguard doesn't do anything against ta's high physical damage, but likewise refraction doesn't do anything against ember since he can melt it easily

in a 1v1 where both players are equally skilled, TA doesn't exactly have much outplay potential, while ember does

I keep dying as ta this patch, earlier i used to have like a max of 4 deaths now i just die in mid by rotations or get caught out of position in a taemfight.

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Ember's counter TA in all ways
Meld he burns
Refraction he burns
lvl 6 slow? Just remnant away
Just get a PMS the laning stage shouldn't be tough

We need a nerf now

I would give the ember a slight edge here because he out lanes ta pretty bad due to 3rd skill. On the other side, you can dodge searing chains with meld pretty easily and turns around killing ember. Both of these hero means if 1 support rotates the enemy mid hero will die. Its a game of burst damage and ember will still win in this situation

ember rapes midd. ta dont have enough dmg to kill ember early with stoun shield and aquila gg aquila is 300 EHP so gg

The only way to win as ta vs good ember is building quick stats and following 2 strategies.

1. Going refraction and using it to push the wave off you so that do not get chained.

2. Going meld and using it dodge chains and then hit with meld to kill him. If you dodge chains and hit him with a lvl 3 meld you can kill him.

The better stratedgy is to constantly push the wave off you and cs jungle camps between waves to get an early deso. You will make more game inpact this way rather than just killing ember 1 time.

Tho against an ember mid you should be going something that beats him more heavily mid like sf or mk

pure 1v1 is 50-50
1 sup mis = ta cant farm if creeps not on her hill

Doesn't matter if ember can't farm he just builds veil and bursts your highest lvl hero and gets comeback gold, really dumb hero Lul

Isnt ember stronger like first 3 lvls and at lvl 6?

ta wins the 1v1 if the players competent but its never a 1v1 and runes and stuff can change the matchup entirely.

i mean, realistically given 2 competent players

both can farm that lane without dying

Good ember player will kill ta once he got lv 6. Bait reflection to flame guard then chain if dodge just use 3 remnants to kill ta. Problem is this thing use up too much mana

ember beats ta until ta gets 5 (laning stage) u cant man up against level 3 refract.

a competent TA won't be baited to waste shield by ember.

So seems like most blue stars think ember beats Ta. Except cookie

A good Ember should beat an equally skilled TA I think. But a godly TA player can beat almost any hero, except Razor I guess.

ta completely dog shit vs ember
ember can solo kill ta at lvl 3-4

Both heroes have solid kill potential on each other. One tiny mistake by one side can make the lane entirely one sided.

u press q, then u hit ember, and then ember dies. thank me later :)

ta is oen of the weakest mid heroes against ember at any point of the game

so from this thread i can conclude that

- TA is good against ember

- ember is good against TA

- TA needs to go lift

from this thread i can conclude that

- everyones retarded

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its just easier for ember but c'mon TA can win the matchup if she goes ham

Lol. I dont see a case where same skill opponents going mid and TA wins Ember. Only with support rotations YES. Any kind of skill build on ta will be a failure vs ember. Ember just kills her lvl 3-4 that's all. [SAME SKILL MID PLAYER]

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ta wins this matchup in a vaccuum by a fair bit from what ive seen, talked to good ta's bout it and it makes sense

pretty sure i play this hero just as good as waga if not better and u dont beat ember if he knows what to do

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